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Will there be more than 140 votes in favor of a Palestinian state at the UN General Assembly?

Will there be more than 140 votes in favor of a Palestinian state at the UN General Assembly?

Asked by: bernardo in Politics » Inter-/Multinational
Settled on 11/29/2012 22:30 Settled by Super Userkruijs
Winning option:No More than 130 countries voted on Thursday to grant Palestine the upgraded status of nonmember state in the United Nations, a stinging defeat for Israel and the United States and a boost for President Mahmoud Abbas of the Palestinian Authority, who was weakened by the recent eight days of fighting in Gaza.

The tally, in which 138 members voted yes, 9 voted no and 41 abstained, took place after a speech by Mr. Abbas to the General Assembly, in which he called the moment a “last chance” to save the two-state solution amid a narrowing window of opportunity.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/30/world/middleeast/Palestinian-Authority-United-Nations-Israel.html?_r=0

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"Despite U.S. and Israeli objections, the Palestinian Authority has applied for full U.N. membership and recognition of a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, with East Jerusalem as its capital. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas submitted the application to U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Sept. 23.

Ban immediately passed it to the U.N. Security Council, which took its first step on Sept. 28 by handing it to a standing committee that will review and assess the application.
Israel and the United States oppose the Palestinian membership bid, saying it is aimed at de-legitimizing Israel. They say the only way Palestine can get statehood is through direct Israeli-Palestinian peace talks.[...]

The Security Council's standing committee on admitting new members includes all 15 council members. The committee will review and assess the Palestinian request for membership. [...] Unlike the full Security Council, the standing committee makes decisions on the basis of a simple majority and none of the five permanent council members can use its veto power.
That means the Palestinians only need the support of eight of the 15 council members to get a positive recommendation from the committee. Even if its membership bid fails, a positive recommendation from the committee would likely be seen as a political victory for the Palestinians.
The committee is expected to report back to the Security Council on the status of its work by Oct. 18. [...]

HOW LONG WILL THE PROCESS TAKE?
In theory, the Palestinian application could sit in the committee indefinitely. However, council diplomats say that is unlikely. A Sept. 23 statement by the "Quartet" of Middle East peace negotiators -- the United States, Russia, the European Union and United nations -- called on Israel and the Palestinians to meet within one month to agree on an agenda to resurrect stalled peace talks.
In keeping with that timeline, Western diplomats said they would expect the standing committee to produce a report on the Palestinian application for the council by Oct. 23 or shortly thereafter.
A Security Council vote on the Palestinian membership application would likely happen at the end of this month or in November. It is unlikely the process would run into 2012, diplomats said.

WHAT HAPPENS IF THE APPLICATION IS REJECTED?
The Palestinians have suggested that they would seek upgraded observer status within the United Nations. They are currently listed as an observer "entity" with no voting rights. They could ask the General Assembly to make them a non-member observer state, like the Vatican, which would be an indirect recognition of statehood. That would require a simple majority vote in the assembly and would enable them to join a number of U.N. agencies, as well as the International Criminal Court." http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/10/06/idINIndia-59736420111006

A simple majority of 193 member states means 97 votes; the symbolic two thirds majority (needed for full recognition in case of an approval by the Security Council) consists of 129 votes.

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   Super Userkruijs

The U.N. General Assembly is expected to approve Palestinians' request to be upgraded to a "non-member observer state" in a vote this morning.

Of the 193 countries in the General Assembly 132 have already recognized Palestine, so the request has a good chance of passing, despite the efforts of the United States and Israel to stop it.

The historic vote would recognize Palestine as a state and give Palestine the right to join U.N. agencies, and could become a party to the International Criminal Court, allowing them to bring cases against Israel.

Israel and the U.S. argue that the vote is purely symbolic, will change nothing on the ground, will hurt peace talks and could affect U.S. funding.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/palestinians-poised-win-historic-statehood-vote/story?id=17837415

   Super Userkruijs

On Thursday, a week after the Gaza cease-fire between Hamas and Israel, the Palestinian Authority, which controls parts of the West Bank, is scheduled to ask the United Nations General Assembly to upgrade the Palestinian status to nonmember observer state

But passage of the resolution — which would allow the Palestinians to try to join the International Criminal Court, where they might be able to bring cases against Israel — would not get the Palestinians any closer to statehood. A negotiated deal with Israel is the only way to ensure creation of a viable Palestinian state and guarantee Israel’s security.

The vote on Thursday is timed to coincide with the 65th anniversary of the General Assembly resolution that called for the division of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states. It’s long past time begin a serious new effort at a negotiated two-state solution.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/29/opinion/the-un-bid-from-palestinians.html#h[OTaOTa]

   sennichi

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   bernardo

"Our plan now is to take the battle to the UN General Assembly, where we are certain to score victory. This will allow us access to many important UN agencies and organizations, including the International Criminal Court." http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=244990

   Super Userkruijs

The Palestinian bid for membership at the United Nations, which was doomed from the start by the threat of an American veto, moved another notch closer to rejection on Thursday at the Security Council, diplomats said. The report is likely to be a dry, diplomatic document that says some committee members support the Palestinian’s bid and others oppose it. A vote to forward the report to the General Assembly will probably take place on Nov. 11, diplomats said.

But a vote on the membership request itself — which was intended by the Palestinians to represent international recognition of statehood — might even be skipped if none of the 15 Security Council members demands one.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/04/world/middleeast/Palestinians-United-Nations-Bid-Moves-Closer-to-Rejection.html?ref=israel

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